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12 Responses to “They Paved History and Put Up a Parking Lot”

  1. schlag says:

    if this building is saved, what will it be used for? surely there must be something in mind other than another starry-eyed redevelopment plan for which there is no demand.

    and of course, perhaps it’s not too much trouble to mention exactly who would pay for any rehabilitation the building will require. surely we cannot expect the citizens to cough up yet another handout to make it happen.

    I’m curious if any of the preservation activists have even attempted to line up some private investors to fund their dream. private money will be the best evidence to any viability of a rehabilitation. so far none has been seen.

  2. The answer to your questions is, ‘Yes’. Do some further reading on this site and you’ll learn who is interested and for what. Also do some research on similar projects from around the country of which there are plenty of examples (some also mentioned on this site). You might also have attended the zoning meeting yesterday where you would have heard directly from one developer who said they were interested in the properties. And yes, public money is already involved; see the $9.4 million we (the city) handed this investment firm that currently owns the brewery. Pay attention.

  3. schlag says:

    hmm that’s odd. you didn’t mention the investors who are willing to risk private money.

    either you forgot or none exist.

  4. When was the last time you picked up a news paper? Not trying to be patronizing but seriously. From an article in D&C this week…

    “Developer Patrick Dutton has been working with the brewery, the Landmark Society of Western New York and several contractors in recent weeks, trying to figure out a solution.”

    Make an effort.

  5. schlag says:

    well I came to this site because it was mentioned in THAT article. if indeed there are private investors gearing up for this project, it would it have been reported by the D&C.

    I realize my original question was essentially rhetorical, but I didn’t expect the discussion to be short-circuited with responses dripping with condescension.

    you might consider just disabling the comments altogether. they certainly aren’t needed if you find it necessary to talk down to your visitors.

  6. If you knew the answer why’d you ask? Your question was “dripping with condescension”. I returned the favor. Have a nice day.

  7. Joe says:

    Any new news on this? Will it be torn down?

  8. @Joe, see the latest news on Cataract here.

  9. Mr. “Schlag”:

    While I realize this issue is now “over” with the vote that I’m sure you support, I did want you to know that there were several private investors willing to put up funds to make this a nice project – to enhance the brewery’s project. There is an element of confidentiality in business relationships. I respect your opinion. The Landmark Society has always approached this project from a professional stand that while we believe there is absolutely a realistic option that is far, far from a “dream,” we do respect other views and can respectfully disagree. Now, with that said, you can choose to respect the confidentiality that several must maintain in respect to private investors that agreed to participate in this project. As I’ve mentioned before, I do appreciate your views on this blog, as everyone else’s views. I just wish we could keep the opinions respectful.

  10. To just add a simple explanation, the issue, in the very end, was that there were, in my opinion, some misconceptions about a small gap in funds for a project. This is normal for large-scale development projects. While I am not going to reveal confidential details, because I promised I would not do so, I can tell you that there could have been a multi-million dollar development on that site that would have created loads of jobs, brought in tons of investment, enhanced the brewery’s project, helped connect St. Paul with High Falls area. It would have been a project that would have been gigantic. With all this said, we have all along supported the brewery’s project to create a brew house, and I still support it. We had a plan that used millions in private dollars. The gap, which is almost always present in these developments, takes time to fill from a variety of funding sources. THe time frame we had was simply too short. So, I’ve tried to explain the private investment issue to you, certainly not to be disrespectful in any way, but to only try and answer in a very honest manner a legitimate question that you raised.

  11. chase tyler says:

    This says one thing to me. No amount of debating, petitioning, or protesting will keep someone from tearing something down. We can’t sit around waiting for people to suggest a parking lot, we need to act and keep the historic places away from developers hands (or others). Once they have a plan for demolition, nothing will stop them. Except a new law. Maybe.


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