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7 Responses to “Battle for Braddock Bay”

  1. EP says:

    As a scientific researcher myself, I was compelled to comment on this surprising inclusion of local wetland ecology.
    With due respect, the local concerns pertaining to the restoration are understandable, simply deriving from the desire to see the bay recover, to have it delisted from the Rochester AOC, etc. But I am often appalled and slightly embarrassed by the lack of actual scientific knowledge on the part of citizens who instead of refering to pertinent scientific data instead rely on anecdote to make decisions. If one were to access either historical maps or aerial photographs, which admittedly are difficult to come by, one would indeed recognize the presence of a barrier beach, originally extending from the ‘western’ spit.
    While I think that the science that the ACoE and other researchers are drawing on is sound, I do think that the design (which is not finalized) should have the new barrier established in its original location (again, from the west).
    Cheers.

  2. EP says:

    To clarify- I meant that the constructed barrier would best be established from the original northwestern spit to best capture the influx of nearshore sediments that move more or less parallel to the shoreline.

  3. Richard Long says:

    It’s almost funny to watch “experts” and “engineers” explain the bay and why it’s plugged up and filling in. They’re so well informed and educated and oh so valuable to making a decision on the future of the Bay.

    Oddly, every one I’ve seen isn’t old enough to have been around before the Seaway came into being to protect Montreal from flooding every Spring.

    Here’s a little hint “Experts” since the Seaway the Lake water has been higher 365 days a year than it was before. The 100 to 150 feet of beaches that were there are now and have been under water for over half a Century. Buttonwood and Salmon Creek continue to haul water to the Bay, but that water laden with LAWN FERTILIZER and dirt from yards upstream don’t flow into the lake like they did in 1945. The bay has become a settling pond thanks to the “EXPERTS” of 1945 who either didn’t know or didn’t care.

    Meanwhile, keep planning for your paychecks, you’ll be retired or moved to a new firm when the Bay closes completely.

  4. Barbra Ann says:

    Please note: ‘reading waves’ through navigational and experience on the water is being ‘scientifically’ studied — please see NY Times article. . . . Just because you are not a ‘scientist’ does not mean you have knowledge — See article in NY Times about Wave Pilots March 26, 2016: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/magazine/the-secrets-of-the-wave-pilots.html?comments&_r=0
    My comment on NYT “Amazing work ~ to save/restore/use wave piloting and to link sensations and feelings to neurology. I have tried to ‘get lost’ . . . out in woods. It’s not easy to get lost once you’ve had a lot of time outdoors in wilderness. The instinctive ‘read’ of landforms and sun can be wired and activated in the human brain . . . must be something like reading waves.”
    8 Recommend – NYT Pick

  5. Barbara says:

    Take a look at what the ‘breakwall’ looks like now in 2017: http://westspit.blogspot.com/2017/04/braddock-bay-update-docks-coming-in.html

  6. Richard Long says:

    Barb, you should also post some pictures of the demolished pavement of Frisbee Hill Rd, and the other roads all those truckloads of stone hauled from Syracuse created as part of this job.

    Why rock from Syracuse instead of Sweeden or one of Dolomite’s local quarries; Because some fool with a Degree learned rock from Syracuse is a bit harder. Of course those who remember all the rocks hauled from Gates didn’t fall apart because they were soft, they fell apart because blasting them out of the quarry left the rock with micro fissures and shattered.

    Meanwhile, the gigantic concrete blocks Odenbach put into the Lake in the 1940s are still there and integral. Good work Engineers.

    PS, don’t tell anybody, there used to be 100 feet of beach beyond the cottages with a trolley running along the beach, BEFORE THE SEAWAY protected Montreal from Spring floods. Sacrifice Greece to protect Montreal. It makes perfect sense.


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