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15 Responses to “Rochester Wins Parking Madness Tournament! Hooray for us?”

  1. Matthew Denker says:

    I want to take a moment to thank all the readers of RochesterSubway who supported our town in this little experiment. I look forward to having a conversation here about what we can do, both in the short term and the future to improve the lot, heh, of these lots. Transforming them into something bigger, better, and more community oriented rather than a daycare for automobiles would go a long way to make Rochester even greater.

  2. Nathanael says:

    I think the *north* half of the Inner Loop is poisoning Rochester’s situation even more than the east half (which thankfully has its demolition funded).

    It was the section of Rochester just south of the the north part of the Inner Loop which won the Parking Madness Tournament.

    Maybe this can raise some awareness and start building some pressure to get rid of more of the Inner Loop, and reconnect Downtown Rochester to the (soon-to-be-rebuilt) Amtrak station and the (new) Greyhound Station. Franklin Square could even be reconstructed!

  3. daggar says:

    Nathaniel is right. Now instead of an inner loop we will have an inner C-clamp– in case its effect on the city’s core was in doubt.

  4. daggar says:

    The only way to convey the horror of urban blight is with an equally horrific format. Thus, here is a 2 meg animated gif of the location:
    http://daggar.net/blarg/franklin-square.gif

  5. Matthew Denker says:

    That’s about what I was thinking of making. i’d love to see it loaded into one of those before/after sliders that are so prominent at NYT and such places. Thank you for making this. It throws the problem into stark relief.

  6. daggar says:

    Fortunately, jquery plugins replaced most of my frontal lobe years ago.

    http://daggar.net/blarg/the-aliens-levelled-our-cities-with-asphalt.html

    The alignment isn’t perfect, but it get the point across.

  7. Matthew Denker says:

    Doubly spectacular. I hope you and Mike are amenable to making that a post of its own. It deserves it. Thank you. I should try to find additional aerials to do that with. I imagine one near the west side of downtown would be similarly striking.

  8. Great minds think alike. We’re already working on that post!

  9. daggar says:

    Thanks Matt. Mike has sent me some old arials to use; if you’ve got any more on hand feel free to send them along. Mike has my email address.

  10. Joe says:

    When is the original picture from? If everything lines up I notice the ca. 1930s firehouse at Andrews and North and the accompanying building across Andrews don’t have an Andrews st to face.

    Also what’s the story behind the massive shuffling, the inner loop alone does not explain it.

  11. The before shot is from 1918. All the shuffling is due to new streets added afterwards to allow for easier traffic flow thru downtown. Chestnut Street (in the upper right corner) was added north of Main. Andrews and Pleasant streets were also extended as additional east/west routes, to relieve traffic on Main.

  12. Nathanael says:

    Wow. It’s amazing realizing that it wasn’t just the Inner Loop: they rammed multiple streets through. When did that happen?

    Chestnut Street at least serves a purpose (as a connection from north to south). Pleasant Street doesn’t and should probably be removed.

  13. I can’t say for sure…sometime between 1940s and 1970s. I just remember reading about each project in old newspaper clippings.

  14. Joe says:

    The chestnut/north street realignment had to happened post 1930’s you can see how the fronts of the buildings on chestnut follow a different path than the current street. The firehouse which I know is from th 30s used to have bays facing north st, so the realignment had to come after.

  15. Jason Haremza says:

    Chestnut Street north of Main Street (really north of East Avenue) happened much later… as late as the 1970s or early 1980s when we should have known better. The better north-south vehicular connection provided by Chestnut Street does not make up for the demolition, illogical street pattern, and truncation of North Street as the primary north-south corridor into the east side of downtown.


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