{"id":7264,"date":"2013-11-18T07:50:51","date_gmt":"2013-11-18T12:50:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/topics\/?p=7264"},"modified":"2013-11-21T11:10:28","modified_gmt":"2013-11-21T16:10:28","slug":"deep-inside-rochesters-big-old-sibley-building","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/topics\/2013\/11\/deep-inside-rochesters-big-old-sibley-building\/","title":{"rendered":"Deep Inside Rochester’s Big Old Sibley Building"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"The<\/a>
\nThis former department store (Sibley, Lindsay & Curr Company) is truly massive. Rochester’s Sibley Building \"external<\/a> weighs in at over 1.1 million square feet (23 acres of floorspace) \u2013 easily the largest building in Monroe County. <\/p>\n

WinnCompanies \"external<\/a> out of Boston now owns the property and plans to spend up to $200 Million over the next five years to bring it back to life as mixed-use space. Holy smokes, do these guys have their work cut out for them. You may have noticed new windows and awnings along Main Street? Some 2,000 windows have yet to be replaced.<\/p>\n

Last week the UofR Urban Explorers Club went on a tour through the maze of hallways and spaces, from the dark sub-basement all the way up to the two massive water tanks on the tower rooftop…<\/p>\n

\"Sibley,<\/a>
\nBefore we begin, here’s a look at department store around holiday time, 1938. At one time you could get anything here. Clothing, shoes, hats, belts, handbags, cosmetics, fine jewelry, sportswear, household items, decorations, coins and stamps, electronics, cameras, portraits, groceries, baked goods, etc. There was a pharmacy, ice cream shoppe, sidewalk cafe, a gourmet restaurant; even a deli and butcher shop. See the old store directory here \"external<\/a>.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley<\/a>
\nIt’s a much different picture today. Fairly empty with a few scattered reminders of the glory days.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley<\/a>
\nLike this clock. A plaque beneath it reads:<\/p>\n

A SIBLEY TIMEPIECE<\/div>\n
“Meet me under the clock” were the instructions that generations of shoppers used for their rendezvous at Sibley’s downtown department store. The four-sided timepiece originally hung from the first floor ceiling in front of the current escalators. The original clock has been restored, inverted and mounted on the steel pole for future generations to admire as a piece of past Sibley department store history.<\/div>\n

“Inverted” means that the clock was mounted on this pole upside-down \u2013 the clock faces had to be removed, flipped right-side-up, and reinstalled.<\/p>\n

Above the clock, the 5-story glass-enclosed atrium installed in 1990 is not original to the building. This atrium was cut open to let sunlight light in. Helicopters were used to lift the glass panels into place.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley<\/a>
\nWinnCompanies has also started to repaint some areas of the building. These are the very early signs of a rebirth.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley<\/a>
\nAccording to a news article on September 23, 1936 these were the very first escalators in western New York. On Sept. 30, 1936, hundreds of shoppers looked on as Mayor Charles Stanton pulled a cord which started the 1,500-foot, five-story conveyance system. All ten escalators cost $250,000 to install and could carry 8,000 people an hour.<\/p>\n

WinnCompanies has just completed the restoration of ONE of the nickel-brass escalators at a cost of $200,000. All ten would cost just over $2 Million to renovate.<\/p>\n

These escalators have been running nearly non-stop since 1936. Rather than replace the inner workings with all new mechanics which might last 20 years, they say it made way more sense to restore and reuse what is already there. And there’s no reason why they shouldn’t run for another 80 years.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley<\/a>
\nThere are a total of 22 elevators in the building. The ones on the ground level in the main lobby are surrounding by green Italian marble. Sibley’s renovated the main floor and had a Grand Reopening on November 2, 1942. They hired an artist to create these relief sculptures to be displayed above each elevator. These first two represent the progress of Main Street over the previous 75 years.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley<\/a><\/p>\n

\"Sibley<\/a><\/p>\n

The next two celebrate local achievements in engineering and agriculture \u2013 harnessing the power and energy of the land and Genesee River…<\/p>\n

\"Sibley<\/a><\/p>\n

…to fuel industrial growth, productivity and spur enhancements in education, culture, energy, architecture, etc.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley<\/a>
\nAlso not sure who the artist was.<\/p>\n

\"Inside<\/a>
\nToday there are still a few tenants hanging on, including MCC (for now) and a Rainbow clothing store.<\/p>\n

\"Inside<\/a><\/p>\n

\"Inside<\/a>
\nWe take a peek inside a set of double doors off the atrium. This is the southwest (Main and Clinton) corner of the building. It’s being used temporarily as an arts studio for city kids.<\/p>\n

\"Inside<\/a>
\nThis space will eventually be occupied by a restaurant and\/or cafe.<\/p>\n

\"Hallway<\/a>
\nNow we head to the back of the building down several zig-zaggy hallways to the loading docks.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley<\/a>
\nShipments of goods from all over the world would be received at these giant loading bay doors.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley<\/a>
\nBoxes of goods and other items would be sent down these shafts to the basement levels to be distributed and displayed throughout the building.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley<\/a>
\nThis is where the baked goods were once made, down this ramp. But we didn’t get a chance to go down there.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley<\/a>
\nInstead we head up these stairs, where the shipping & receiving manager hung out. In its heyday, Sibley’s delivery room shipped nearly 10,000 packages daily.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley<\/a>
\nIt’s quite dark in here. But we see a few chairs, shelves, some old Sibley’s boxes, and empty packs of cigarettes. CORRECTION: Those are Sibley’s bags, not boxes. I didn’t touch them so I wasn’t sure. But they looked super-thick like boxes!<\/p>\n

\"Sibley<\/a><\/p>\n

\"Sibley<\/a><\/p>\n

\"Sibley<\/a>
\nNow we’re going to jump onto a freight elevator and rumble on up to the sixth floor.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley<\/a>
\nThese elevators are old-school!<\/p>\n

\"The<\/a>
\nWe step off the elevator on level six, into a huge empty space which used to be the Tea Room\/Tower Restaurant kitchen.<\/p>\n

\"The<\/a>
\nThe floors are covered wall to wall with white tile (or what was once white).<\/p>\n

\"The<\/a>
\nThis place could use some elbow grease.<\/p>\n

\"The<\/a>
\nThese two service doors were for wait staff.<\/p>\n

\"The<\/a>
\nThe doors lead into this fancy restaurant known as The Tower Restaurant (I’ve also heard it referred to as the “Pompeian Room”). It served nearly 130,000 meals a year.<\/p>\n

\"The<\/a>
\nIt was renovated sometime during the late 70’s or early 80’s. A dance floor and fairly dated gold paneling was installed.<\/p>\n

\"The<\/a>
\nThis grand buffet was designed and built specifically for this room. It’s shown in the original 1904 architectural floorplans.<\/p>\n

\"The<\/a><\/p>\n

\"The<\/a>
\nA little side room used to store extra furniture was once a private dining room.<\/p>\n

\"The<\/a>
\nAnother side room off the main dining room, again for private functions.<\/p>\n

\"The<\/a>
\nThe ceiling covering has lost its desire to hang on. So far the chandelier is still hanging tough.<\/p>\n

\"The<\/a>
\nThis door takes us outside onto the roof.<\/p>\n

\"On<\/a>
\nWinnCompanies plans to make this into a green roof deck for future tenants.<\/p>\n

\"On<\/a>
\nThey also plan to restore the clock tower. And there’s the glass atrium to the left.<\/p>\n

\"On<\/a><\/p>\n

\"On<\/a>
\nNice views from here, but they’re even better from the top of the 12-story tower. We’ll see those later on. Let’s go back inside.<\/p>\n

\"The<\/a>
\nIt’s so dark in here sometimes I forget to look down and notice the nice floors. This is outside the ladies’ powder room…<\/p>\n

\"The<\/a>
\nThe ladies’ powder room.<\/p>\n

\"The<\/a>
\nAnd this door leads to the ladies’ bathroom. Shall we?<\/p>\n

\"The<\/a>
\nNice color scheme. The sign on the back wall reads:<\/p>\n

“Every effort is made to keep this lavoratory as clean as possible for you. We will appreciate your cooperation in helping us maintain its cleanliness.<\/div>\n
Thank You”<\/div>\n

\"The<\/a><\/p>\n

\"The<\/a>
\nAnd this is the men’s lounge. I don’t have any photos of the men’s bathroom. It was a rather small space for my lens and not as interesting as the ladies’ room.<\/p>\n

\"The<\/a>
\nOutside the men’s room and just past the guest elevator was this weird space. It has been reported that this was the kids\u2019 Barber Shop? Anyway, there was a neat series of folksy murals on the wall, painted in the 1950\u2019s by Lindus Vilimas from Sibley\u2019s own Display Department…<\/p>\n

\"The<\/a>
\n“Pleasant Valley of the Genesee”<\/p>\n

\"The<\/a>
\n“On the Great Trail”<\/p>\n

\"Mural<\/a>
\n“Upper Falls” …and there is a fourth one buried just behind the temporary wall on the right. I couldn’t squeeze my camera in there.<\/p>\n

\"The<\/a>
\nAlrighty. Let’s go back downstairs. Our host wants to show us the basements. But not on this elevator.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley's<\/a>
\nWe take the freight elevator to the upper basement. There is sub-basement beneath here we’ll see later.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley's<\/a>
\nIt’s a maze of dark hallways.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley's<\/a>
\nAnd storage cages.<\/p>\n

\"Boilers<\/a>
\nThe building is heated with steam and toasty warm down here. These are two enormous boilers. The pipes down are clanging away like mad. Take a listen…<\/p>\n[audio:https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/audio\/sibley-clanging-pipes.mp3|autostart=no]\n

\"Sibley's<\/a>
\nThere’s a ton of great junk down here. I could have spent days digging through it all but the group is moving fast. I start to fall behind.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley's<\/a>
\nI don’t know what this room is. The Super Mario Bros. room maybe. OR, this could be the room that powered the pneumatic tube system for the building. Thirty-five miles of pneumatic tubes sent transactions from the sales counters to the “tube room” where change was counted out or the purchase was put on a charge account. Nearly 1,000 such transactions took place each day. Each one taking less than 40 seconds roundtrip. Who needs a computer anyway!<\/p>\n

\"Sibley's<\/a>
\nSome kind of dark mystery room I don’t want to venture into.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley's<\/a>
\nPiles of old wooden doors.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley's<\/a>
\nThis reminds me of my first apartment. I don’t get too comfy though. This place is starting to freak me out.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley's<\/a>
\nWe make our way past several elevator bays that open up into a wide open space.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley's<\/a>
\nThis area used to be where all the “bargain basement” deals were. Sort of the Sibley’s version of Filene’s Basement, though Sibley\u2019s version probably came first.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley's<\/a>
\nI’m not certain, but I imagine this old photo from 1940 might be somewhere down here in the Bargain Basement.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley's<\/a>
\nStairs. But we’re not going up just yet.<\/p>\n

\"This<\/a>
\nAfter several twists and turns I have no idea where we are now. This looks like it could have been a cafeteria \u2013 for employees maybe? Could also have been the phone-order department. Operators here would handle nearly 10,000 calls each week. Phone orders at Sibley’s made up 5 percent of total sales.<\/p>\n

\"To<\/a>
\nOk, now let’s go even deeper. To the SUB-basement!<\/p>\n

\"Sibley<\/a>
\nUh oh. It’s intensely dark and claustrophobic when finally I realize I made a wrong turn and have to head back. I’m completely removed from the group at this point. The clanging pipes are drilling into my cranium.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley<\/a>
\nBack on track now. This area was sort of strange, spatially. It was probably a 50,000 square foot space. Huge. But it felt just the opposite because of all the support columns everywhere. Like being deep inside a thick forest.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley<\/a>
\nEvery wall and column has writing on it.<\/p>\n

\"I<\/a>
\nI notice a classic rock theme to much of the graffiti down here.<\/p>\n

\"Supermang.<\/a><\/p>\n

\"This<\/a>
\nRemember the chutes from the loading docks upstairs? I think we may have found the bottom of one. This area was for wrapping and packing. How do I know? Because the threatening sign says so…<\/p>\n

\"I<\/a>
\nI wonder what else went on down here besides wrapping & packing? Some good times, I’m sure.<\/p>\n

Ok, at this point I can’t hear any of the voices from my group. I’ve fallen way behind and need to kick it into high gear to catch up before I get trapped down here.<\/p>\n

\"Sibley<\/a>
\nEventually we come back up and come to the main lobby of the tower. The tower was built in two phases with floors 7 through 12 added in 1924. By 1939, Sibley’s would be the largest department store between New York City and Chicago.<\/p>\n

Notice the fancy mailbox. This is connected to a Cutler mail chute, invented and produced in Rochester, NY. This one was in working order through at least 2000. It may still work but it’s currently not in use. Maybe because there are only two tenants in the tower now?<\/p>\n

\"The<\/a>
\nThe tour now takes us up to the 11th floor. The elevator lets out into one long hallway with tons of these glowing doors. I have this incredible urge to open up each one to see what’s behind them.<\/p>\n

\"We<\/a>
\nWe take a walk to the temporary WinnCompanies office.<\/p>\n

\"Great<\/a>
\nGreat views of midtown from here. Lots of neat renderings and floor plans showing the new renovated Sibley building. From left to right: the office & retail lobby elevators, building exterior showing the green rooftop deck, and the residential (tower) lobby.<\/p>\n

\"These<\/a>
\nThese are the original original plans (from 1904). Hand drawn on silk and with famous local architect J. Foster Warner\u2019s signature on each one, each page looks like a work of art and is worth as much as $1,000 per page to collectors.<\/p>\n

\"From<\/a>
\nFrom these windows you can see out to Lake Ontario…<\/p>\n

\"From<\/a>
\n…I mean, if it were a clear day.<\/p>\n

\"Here's<\/a>
\nHere’s the view looking down Main Street East (on the left) and East Ave. (on the right). Holiday lights are being hung on the Liberty Pole today.<\/p>\n

\"I<\/a>
\nWe’re taking another walk down the hall to see some more stuff. I love these doors. It feels like we are on the set of \u201cMad Men\u201d. Each door has a teeny mail slot. At some point our mail must have gotten larger because some of the doors have been modified with a larger one. These will all become high-end apartments. Because of the historic landmark status of the building, WinnCompanies cannot alter the doors or hallways in any way. The doors will have to open into a vestibule with another, more secure door inside.<\/p>\n

\"My<\/a>
\nHISTORICAL NOTE: My very first full time job was working for an internet service provider called EZnet (late 1990’s before the dot com bubble). Behind this glass door was where I designed my first professional web site \u2013 for the company that made Jolt Cola.<\/p>\n

\"Dentistry<\/a>
\nAlright, here’s a slightly more interesting door. Dentistry by Dr. Robert I. Morris. Closed Thursday Afternoons. This guy had some serious work ethic.<\/p>\n

\"Dr.<\/a>
\nLooks like Dr. Morris hasn’t been here in years. This place is frozen in time. There’s a series of three or four really cramped patient rooms.<\/p>\n

\"Let's<\/a>
\nLet’s see those pearly whites. “CHEESE!”<\/p>\n

\"Gas<\/a>
\nGas masks. But the chair is missing from this room.<\/p>\n

\"A<\/a>
\nI wonder what these were used for? A Capmaster and a Toothmaster. Somewhere around here are the Keymaster and Gatekeeper.<\/p>\n

\"Kodak<\/a>
\nKodak was everywhere!<\/p>\n

Now we jump on yet another elevator to head up to the 12th floor. <\/p>\n

\"Another<\/a>
\nFor some reason the elevator took us down to the 1st floor before taking us up. But we got to see another cool lobby.<\/p>\n

\"12th<\/a>
\nAlright, here we are on 12.<\/p>\n

\"12th<\/a>
\nAt one time Sibley’s had fur storage vaults up here on 12. A D&C article in 1939 noted these vaults contained “thousands of valuable coats on miles of racks.” In addition to the vaults were “high pressure blowing machines for cleaning the furs before storage.” We didn’t see any of that. Just lots of open space with nice views.<\/p>\n

\"Nice<\/a>
\nNice view of the clock tower and Main Street West. While we’re up here let’s venture up to the roof…<\/p>\n

\"While<\/a><\/p>\n

\"While<\/a><\/p>\n

\"Here's<\/a>
\nHere’s a view of the old central post office.<\/p>\n

\"This<\/a>
\nThis giant metal structure once held a Sibley’s department store sign.<\/p>\n

That’s the Temple Building and the Liberty Pole peeking up above the roofline.<\/p>\n

\"That's<\/a>
\nA webcam was installed here by the City to capture photos of the Midtown construction<\/a> across the street.<\/p>\n

WinnCompanies plans to install a green rooftop deck up here as well. This one would be for the apartment residents. There might even be a disposal chute for doggy waste. Neat-o.<\/p>\n

\"In<\/a>
\nThe tower is actually shaped like an irregular triangle. In the center is a big open space so that interior offices can have a little daylight. WinnCompanies also plans to install a rooftop patio down in there.<\/p>\n

\"Have<\/a>
\nYou may have noticed this little brick building way up on top of the big Sibley’s building tower. Well, it’s not so little from up here. Have you ever wondered what’s inside there? Let’s check it out…<\/p>\n

\"On<\/a>
\nOn the first level we have all the elevator mechanicals.<\/p>\n

\"On<\/a><\/p>\n

\"Going<\/a>
\nGoing up one more level. This would technically be the 14th floor.<\/p>\n

\"Giant<\/a>
\nUp here we find not one, but two huge water tanks. Originally created to use gravity and provide enough pressure for both the fire sprinkler and domestic water systems in the building. Today these 30,000 gallon tanks lie mostly empty and dormant, the ultimate pigeon roost.<\/p>\n

\"Giant<\/a>
\nThese photos don’t even come close to conveying their true size. <\/p>\n

\"Giant<\/a>
\nThey kind of look like giant atomic bombs.<\/p>\n

\"Giant<\/a><\/p>\n

\"Mural<\/a>
\nAnd there she is. Sibley’s, the former pride of Rochester retail. From top to bottom. Rochester is excited to see the updates WinnCompanies will bring to the old girl. Follow their progress on Facebook \"external<\/a> or their website \"external<\/a><\/p>\n

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