{"id":10855,"date":"2015-03-22T23:54:23","date_gmt":"2015-03-23T03:54:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/topics\/?p=10855"},"modified":"2015-03-23T16:22:46","modified_gmt":"2015-03-23T20:22:46","slug":"filling-in-wegmans-plaza","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/topics\/2015\/03\/filling-in-wegmans-plaza\/","title":{"rendered":"Filling In: Wegmans Plaza"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a title=\"Wegmans under construction from overhead\" rel=\"lightbox-fillinginwegmans\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/images\/photos\/Wegmans_Plaza_Overhead.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin-bottom:6px\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/images\/photos\/Wegmans_Plaza_Overhead.jpg\" border=\"1\" alt=\"Wegmans under construction from overhead\" width=\"100%\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<small><i>By <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/topics\/2009\/01\/contributors\/#about-matthew-denker\">Matthew Denker<\/a><\/i><\/small><\/p>\n<p>It has come to my attention that there are some <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/rocsubway\/photos\/a.282378736568.139929.251790736568\/10152695782926569\/\" target=\"_new\">pretty stalwart fans <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"external link\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/images\/icon_link.gif\" width=\"15\" height=\"11\" border=\"0\"><\/a> of Tops Friendly Markets out there! That means this is the Filling In for you (as opposed to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/topics\/2015\/02\/filling-in-tops-plaza\/\" target=\"_new\">this one<\/a>). <\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>OK, so as some of you may or may not know, there&#8217;s a Wegmans on East Avenue. Shocker. Not only that, but Wegmans built themselves a mammoth new store on the rubble of a row of commercial buildings behind their old store, and then tore the old store down for parking. If <i>that&#8217;s<\/i> not filling in, I don&#8217;t know what is. <\/p>\n<p>But the new Wegmans store has is nearly two years old now. That&#8217;s a good enough run. And besides, that 349-space surface lot is begging for something new. <\/p>\n<p>The block Wegmans currently occupies is over 7 acres. That is about 1\/2 of the World Trade Center site in New York City. I bet you can see where this is going&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"New Wegmans Development from the East\" rel=\"lightbox-fillinginwegmans\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/images\/photos\/denker\/wegmans\/WTC_Wegmans_render_1.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin-bottom:6px\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/images\/photos\/denker\/wegmans\/WTC_Wegmans_render_1.jpg\" border=\"1\" alt=\"New Wegmans Development from the East\" width=\"100%\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>BAM! &#8230;Half the World Trade Center!<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"New Wegmans Development from Cobbs Hill\" rel=\"lightbox-fillinginwegmans\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/images\/photos\/denker\/wegmans\/WTC_Wegmans_render_2.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin-bottom:6px\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/images\/photos\/denker\/wegmans\/WTC_Wegmans_render_2.jpg\" border=\"1\" alt=\"New Wegmans Development from Cobbs Hill\" width=\"100%\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"New Wegmans Development from Downtown\" rel=\"lightbox-fillinginwegmans\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/images\/photos\/denker\/wegmans\/WTC_Wegmans_render_3.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin-bottom:6px\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/images\/photos\/denker\/wegmans\/WTC_Wegmans_render_3.jpg\" border=\"1\" alt=\"New Wegmans Development from Downtown\" width=\"100%\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>So I know what you&#8217;re thinking (I don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re thinking, but I&#8217;m about to make a list of what I think you are thinking).<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><strong>Hey man, I like Wegmans<\/strong> &#8211; No problem, these two buildings alone have six million square feet of space. We&#8217;ll put a new Wegmans in one of the towers.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Aren&#8217;t these a little tall for Rochester?<\/strong> &#8211; They&#8217;re not any taller for Rochester than they are for other cities not named New York City or Dubai, so I say it&#8217;s time.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Won&#8217;t this kind of flood the market for space (of any kind) in Rochester?<\/strong> &#8211; Don&#8217;t think of these as flooding the market so much as creating a whole new market. Besides, all of downtown Rochester only has about twice as much space as this as it is.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Ugh, where will all these people park?<\/strong> &#8211; If it was up to me, there would be enough people living and working in these towers that the typical commute would be on an elevator. Unfortunately, they&#8217;ll probably park in front of your house and partially block your driveway.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Hey man, what about all those hard working Wegmans employees?<\/strong> &#8211; See 1 above. They will all get jobs in the even newer even better Wegmans.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Ok, but in all seriousness, let&#8217;s take a look at the evolution of the block with Wegmans, because it&#8217;s instructive of just how this filling in stuff works.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s a map of the block from 1902 the year before this area was annexed from Brighton by the City of Rochester&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Downtown Brighton Map from 1902\" rel=\"lightbox-fillinginwegmans\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/images\/photos\/denker\/wegmans\/Brighton_1902_detail.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin-bottom:6px\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/images\/photos\/denker\/wegmans\/Brighton_1902_detail.jpg\" border=\"1\" alt=\"Downtown Brighton Map from 1902\" width=\"100%\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>And here&#8217;s another map from 1926&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"East and Winton in 1926\" rel=\"lightbox-fillinginwegmans\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/images\/photos\/denker\/wegmans\/Rochester_1926_detail.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin-bottom:6px\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/images\/photos\/denker\/wegmans\/Rochester_1926_detail.jpg\" border=\"1\" alt=\"East and Winton in 1926\" width=\"100%\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>And here&#8217;s a photo of the library in that map (it&#8217;s labeled school in 1902). It was demolished in 1967 after the land was auctioned with the stipulation that the buyer demolish or move the building&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Brighton School 2\/Rochester Public Library Brighton Branch\" rel=\"lightbox-fillinginwegmans\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/images\/photos\/denker\/wegmans\/Brighton_Branch_Library.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin-bottom:6px\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/images\/photos\/denker\/wegmans\/Brighton_Branch_Library.jpg\" border=\"1\" alt=\"Brighton School 2\/Rochester Public Library Brighton Branch\" width=\"100%\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Progress!<\/p>\n<p>Here are some other buildings that were there before the larger Wegmans&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Buildings Demolished for the new Wegmans. [PHOTO: RochesterSubway.com]\" rel=\"lightbox-fillinginwegmans\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/images\/photos\/brighton-village-east-avenue-wegmans-01.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin-bottom:6px\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/images\/photos\/brighton-village-east-avenue-wegmans-01.jpg\" border=\"1\" alt=\"Buildings Demolished for the new Wegmans. [PHOTO: RochesterSubway.com]\" width=\"100%\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"More Buildings Demolished for the new Wegmans. [PHOTO: RochesterSubway.com]\" rel=\"lightbox-fillinginwegmans\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/images\/photos\/brighton-village-east-avenue-wegmans-02.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin-bottom:6px\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/images\/photos\/brighton-village-east-avenue-wegmans-02.jpg\" border=\"1\" alt=\"More Buildings Demolished for the new Wegmans. [PHOTO: RochesterSubway.com]\" width=\"100%\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"More Buildings Demolished for the new Wegmans. [PHOTO: RochesterSubway.com]\" rel=\"lightbox-fillinginwegmans\" href=\"http:\/\/rochestersubway.com\/images\/photos\/denker\/wegmans\/Buildings_on_East_before_Wegmans_2.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin-bottom:6px\" src=\"http:\/\/rochestersubway.com\/images\/photos\/denker\/wegmans\/Buildings_on_East_before_Wegmans_2.jpg\" border=\"1\" alt=\"More Buildings Demolished for the new Wegmans. [PHOTO: RochesterSubway.com]\" width=\"100%\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Oh yes, and in case you don&#8217;t make it by this spot too often, here&#8217;s what it looks like now.<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Wegmans on East Avenue and Winton Road. Rochester, NY. [PHOTO: RochesterSubway.com]\" rel=\"lightbox-fillinginwegmans\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/images\/photos\/wegmans-east-avenue-rochester.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin-bottom:6px\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/images\/photos\/wegmans-east-avenue-rochester.jpg\" border=\"1\" alt=\"Wegmans on East Avenue and Winton Road. Rochester, NY. [PHOTO: RochesterSubway.com]\" width=\"100%\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>And there you have some real filling in \u2013\u00a0as opposed to the fantasy that&#8217;s usually part and parcel of this column. \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align:center;margin:20px 0px 20px 0px\">\u2022 \u2022 \u2022<\/div>\n<p><small>Model Sources: <a href=\"https:\/\/3dwarehouse.sketchup.com\/model.html?id=dd60e26a22c070d6bb5af0555db46d8a\" target=\"_new\">4WTC <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"external link\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/images\/icon_link.gif\" width=\"15\" height=\"11\" border=\"0\"><\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/sites.google.com\/site\/onewtca2\/home\/sketchup-model\" target=\"_new\">1WTC <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"external link\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rochestersubway.com\/images\/icon_link.gif\" width=\"15\" height=\"11\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By Matthew Denker It has come to my attention that there are some pretty stalwart fans of Tops Friendly Markets out there! 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