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Inside Abandoned Medley Centre (a.k.a Irondequoit Mall)

January 24th, 2016

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Random Retail, Flickr.com]
By Snoop Junkie

Last week Medley Centre finally went up for auction. Angelo Ingrassia, former owner of Irondequoit Dodge, won external link the vacant building plus nine adjoining properties for the bargain basement price of $100,000.

The following images were taken last month (December 2015) inside Medley Centre…

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]
A fond memory of my teenage years and likely many of yours as well, was hanging out at the mall with my friends.

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]
Not in the sense that it was time well spent, or that specific memories were made while being oh so productive doing whatever it was that we did, but because at that point in life, it was a taste of freedom & independence. A chance to spread the wings and blend with society—in a teenagerly sort of way. 😉

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]
I personally remember spending much of our time frequenting stores in the mall like Coda, Time-Out (arcade), JW, Structure, FYE & Record Town.

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]
Or who remembers Chess King, Merry go Round, Tape World, KB Toys & B Dalton?

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]
And yes, let’s face it, another pastime that many of us considered a priority at the mall was chasing around the girls or the guys. Then of course after all the “chasing”, we’d need a boost to bring us back up for round two, so we’d stop for an Orange Julius or maybe a Cindy’s cinnamon roll!

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]
Anyhow, I could go on, but I’ll let your memories take over from here.

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]
The Irondequoit Mall external link as I remember it, and more recently Medley Centre, is somewhat of a time capsule from those days of past. It officially closed its doors in 2009 (Sears is still in operation), but stores were beginning to shut down within well before that.

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]
A combination of both petty crime and a rising wave of loitering led to the demise of this mall. Loyal shoppers would eventually start taking their shopping dollars elsewhere.

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]
Those of us that enjoy exploring the abandoned, often times protect what we have found from others, or at least the “how to” when it comes to getting inside specific locations. Much of this has to do with minimizing the damage to a place like this, through control of information.

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]
Some would like no more than to get inside and destroy whatever possible, for the “fun” of it. Whereas others, like myself, go primarily for the appreciation and photo capture of whatever it is that we seek out, while respecting our surroundings and those who may have still have an invested interest.

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]
In this instance, a tip was received from another local explorer (SG77) to a small window of opportunity, in exchange for information on another desirable location.

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]
And this little transaction worked out quite nicely for us, as the teenager in me has long been wanting grace the halls of this mall with its presence, one final time.

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]
But be warned, as the window of opportunity which I had is now nonexistent. As a matter of fact, there is currently a strong police presence on the property as well as additional security and active surveillance inside. Getting inside at this point is no longer an option, and I would strongly recommend not trying.

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]
But anyway, I’ll be quiet now. Let’s have a look around.

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]
Wow. Looky what we’ve found here. Former owner Scott Congel had ambitious plans for redeveloping the mall. A 421-room hotel, 330 condominium units and a 16-screen movie theater would be part of the project, as well as retail, restaurant and office space and an underground parking garage.

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]
This model is about as far as that project ever got before the mall’s last remaining tenants started to leave, and Congel found himself in a mess of tax problems.

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]
Are you hungry? Let’s hit the food court.

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]

Abandoned Medley Centre / Irondequoit Mall. Rochester, NY. [IMAGE: Snoop Junkie]

So, what do you think? Did Angelo close the deal of the century? Or get taken for a ride?

– Snoop Junkie

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32 Responses to “Inside Abandoned Medley Centre (a.k.a Irondequoit Mall)”

  1. Bill says:

    I’m disappointed to see this site pushing the idea that the failure of this mall was the result of crime and loitering. What’s next – blaming most accidents on cyclists ignoring traffic laws or a comment on how downtown’s problems can be blamed entirely on a lack of parking?

  2. Julia says:

    I remember anxiously awaiting the opening of the mall, especially since I had become a fan of Walden Galleria an hour and a half down the road. My mom and I joined many others in escaping our powerless houses during the Ice Storm of 1991 and spending the day wandering around the mall. I also worked at Bon-Ton from 1995-1999 on winter/summer breaks from college. The change for the worse, in terms of stores closing, was apparent in those four years. I hope the new owner is able to find a solution and that there aren’t too many legal wranglings due to past owners to clean up!

  3. Powers says:

    The place is in remarkably good condition. It looks like it could reopen within a month if it had tenants. Shame it’ll probably be torn down. Hopefully Angelo at least finds a home for the carousel.

  4. Kelly says:

    I would love this mall to be turned into something awesome. It’s still beautiful…just needs some TLC. I can see condos, restaurants, etc. there. Like the Village Gate. The fact that it sits there empty kills me.

  5. Esy says:

    Crime and loitering, for sure. At the time, gang violence was terrifying to most people, even those in a Rochester suburb, and there clearly were gangs walking around that mall. Maybe not Crips or Hells angels, probably groups of youths pretending to be tough, what did we know? Anyway, that is why I stopped going, except for Kaufman’s around Christmas,
    I’d love to see an outlet center in that location, it would be the best of two worlds.

  6. Rayf says:

    Just seeing the Time Out logo brings me back. Amazing how long you could try and make those 4 quaters go.

    Also, nice shout-out to Merry-Go-Round. Nothing better than wearing Cross Colors and back to Africa necklaces as a white 13 year old.

  7. Dave says:

    @Powers Yes in these photos it looks like it is in good shape, but it really isnt. There is water damage throughout most of it.

  8. As the owner of a business on East Ridge in Irondequoit, I’d love to see some movement on this property. That said, I don’t think we’ll see this reemerge as a traditional shopping mall. Greece Ridge is to the west and a lot of retail has emerged in Webster to the east since this mall was in its (brief) heyday. It could potentially be repositioned as an outlet mall for pure retail or some sort of mixed use. I would hope that a bulldozer doesn’t figure too prominently in the plans since the actual structure seems like it has potential (and isn’t that old). Whatever the plan, someone will have to have a big checkbook to make it work.

  9. Snoop Junkie says:

    Dave- The photos that you’re referring to from an old D&C article, showing water damage, do not depict the current conditions. There was a water main break inside Medley a few years back, causing the damage that you see in those D&C photos. That damage had since been cleaned up, long ago. The photos posted here on this page were taken last month.

  10. Snoop Junkie says:

    Bill- I was at Bersin’s press conference when he bought the mall in 2005. While speaking to the press, he attributed the failure of the property to primarily come as a result of crime, loitering and a lack of security/police presence to handle the prior, while making shoppers feel safe. His push and plan was included the hiring and help of a former police chief to focus on and deal with those concerning issues. Never made it that far…

  11. Judy says:

    Sad. I left Rochester in 1981 when everything was still in business. Life goes on!

  12. Michael Damico says:

    who honestly thought Scott Congel’s plans for a 421-room hotel, 330 condominium units and a 16-screen movie theater, retail options, restaurant and office space, and an underground parking garage would ever come to fruition? None of that would have been good for the Town, nor would any of it fit into Irondequoit.

  13. Mary Roides says:

    I would love to see an outlet mall, the other one is so far away. Enjoyed J.C. Penneys, Macy”s Bon Ton’s while we had then but good old Congel , boy what a guy, who wants him?

  14. Lance says:

    This mall and others like it will be done in by Amazon.

  15. Sue says:

    @Rayf – you made me laugh! :)

    It doesn’t really matter what they put there, let’s be honest. The mall failed because of the pseudo gangs and wannabe thugs hanging around at the time. I was in my late teens, I remember it with eyes wide open. If I had money I would be bringing it to an upscale area like Pittsford or Victor. I wouldn’t be shopping whatever they decide to put in the medley centers place. The area isn’t going to change.

  16. Bill says:

    I don’t doubt the perception of crime and loitering played a role. But perception and reality are not necessarily the same. I was around then too and it was pretty obvious that a lot of people talking about “crime” and “loitering” meant visible poor people and minorities. And still do. As far as Bersin – it’s a lot easier to make security visible and try to assuage overblown fear when you are trying to draw shoppers and stores than it is to acknowledge that enclosed malls were entering a period of decline and come up with a new business model. And anyone willing to buy the property wouldn’t consider the possibility that the area was overmalled or that subsidizing sprawl was a big challenge that needed to be addressed. There were a number of factors that lead to the failure and we shouldn’t ignore them to uncritically perpetuate the “it was the criminals (from the city) that ruined it” line. I can read the comments section on any mainstream media article on the subject if I want that.

  17. Snoop Junkie says:

    In a business platform where you are required to draw customers through your doors, that type of perception or reputation, reality or not, is most likely going to harm your numbers. And those whispers were at the forefront of reasons as to what went wrong. I knew plenty of bored white privileged kids that were running a muck in this mall back then. It’s unfortunate that some are quick to single out minorities coming in from the city on the bus line.

  18. Hot says:

    That’s not the reason the mall close the mall close cause every time someone went to the mall they were getting pulled over because of The police are out there people go to Greece mall marketplace mall in there still in business so blame it on the town

  19. Kelly says:

    I think it would have been a really cool if someone would turn it into a indoor water park.

  20. Rosalie says:

    The mall looks good…..what ever happens the memories will be there; but Irondequoit needs shopping stores to draw the people back to irondequoit. There will always be those trouble makers but together as a town we can keep them away. So what ever the space turns into it will build the town of irondequoit and get it back into action. Thank you to the new owner for taking the step forward and making the big empty spot have a future.

  21. Cj says:

    I remember it well. I worked there in the early 90’s. I always thought it was a great place. True the memories will always be there, however it would be wonderful to have a new and improved version open in its place. Look at the wonderful things going on at Destiny USA. The entertainment and dinner options are outstanding. The possibilities are endless for that area. Best of Luck to Angelo on whatever he choses to do with it.

  22. Lynn says:

    Fact is the mall went under because of all the gangs and stealing. Let’s face it the area is not the best around anymore it’s almost as bad as the city. So with that said you can’t change the area , It’s2016 . The area will only get worse with crime and what have you. I am afraid to shop RidgeRd at night like Marshalls or even going to culver Ridge. The best thing Angelo could do if he wanted to make it a business is put a huge car lot in there! With security of course lol

  23. Julie nasca says:

    Best thing to do is turn it into college spaces and medical offices, but I hear that’s already the plan, Rochester already thrives in the medical community so . Anything else would fail especially when it’s located in such a poor area of the city demographics proved that already with the mall failure.

  24. Bugsy says:

    To me, the mall failed because the original, owners, Wilmorite I believe it was, or at least they were the main owners at one time, malled themselves to death, meaning they have Marketplace, Eastview, and then they merged Long Ridge and Greece Towne Mall. When those two merged, that killed Irondequoit Mall, if you ask me, and they got out because they knew it; they profited from it, knowing full well there wasn’t enough room to have merged two malls into one sprawling mall, and only a few miles down the road have Irondequiot try to survive, and every owner after just watched it go through a slow, painful death. That’s my opinion anyway.

  25. Jim Fraser says:

    If it went for a mere $100,000 it did so because no serious mall developer wanted it. And if Wilmorite and others passed on it, it can only be because it’s untouchable as a mall, or anything else it could affordably be turned into. Developers well know the economics of any redevelopment scheme imaginable, and every one of them took a pass. The fact that the site had to be given away means that something beyond the grasp of developers must happen before development. If I had a stake in this, I’d be busy figuring out what that is.

  26. Dick H says:

    Why is Sears still open? Does it get any business?

  27. LOITER_SCUM says:

    hey does anyone know the security guard who worked there in the last few days of the doors being unlocked (but no stores or anything inside) ? he kicked me out for going up the down escalator he was so angry just wanted to see if his life got better or anything! positive vibes, yanno?

  28. Alan says:

    Not for nothin’, but I thought it was a stupid idea before they even built it. It was in an economically depressed area, it was too small to be a draw, and who needed another mall anyway, especially with two freakin’ malls in Greece right next to each other just right down the road.

    I don’t know who the featherheads are who deny that the place was crime-heavy as malls go. I think that some people just make up things and decide to believe them.

    And I certainly don’t understand why people who have so much money can be so darn stupid. But Rochester has had so many failed endeavors that it should name itself The City Of Stupid Ideas.

    Great website, though. Congratulations and thank you.

  29. Sam says:

    I know that window of opportunity probably doesn’t exist, but my friends and I have been exploring abandoned places around Rochester recently and we tried going in the mall, but to no success. Do you think you could tip me on how to get in? I might be able to trade some information

  30. jersey101 says:

    It’s almost a year since Angelo bought the Mall. Does anyone have any concrete ideas or what plans he has with the mall? I know he was working inside of it, but many were under the impression he was to announce plans summer of 2016. Update on this poor mall would be great. Please fill us in.

  31. tom 117 says:

    pretty sure someone has to pony up the…. i believe 60,000,000 owed to a foreign bank or at least cut some kind of deal before much can be done with the property . i sure enjoyed playing in the gravel pits that were there in the 50 – 60s

  32. Hailey says:

    I’m much younger than most of the commenters, so my memories of the mall are limited. All I really remember is driving by it in my car a lot when I was a kid and wanting to go on the beautiful carousel that was in the giant window. I have been a few times as a kid but I don’t remember what it was like. When news 10 nbc started doing those stories on the mall is when I got really interested in the medley centre. The mall I’ve always wanted to see the inside of. After all, Greece Ridge is really boring, it only has one floor and the designs aren’t as elaborate and beautiful. When I found out there was water damage in some spots I was furious because they took a beautiful mall and let the pipes freeze and burst. It’s such a gorgeous place. No asbestos, still in very good condition, and only needs some work on it. It makes me devastated to see something so beautiful just sit there and deteriorate, soon to become like many other abandoned buildings in Rochester.


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